I'm not sure which "the poster" you're referring to, Ron. Holder was not a poster, not here anyhow, and neither he nor anybody I've seen posting here that I can think of has endorsed an "us vs them" attitude. I can see how what I have described about the workings of my church's regional group could be misinterpreted as an "ideologically pure temple", so maybe I am "the poster". I don't think anything I'm associated with would ever really merit the description "ideologically pure" ;-) though. And we certainly don't have an us vs. them attitude. Ebbie and Stringsinger were the ones who brought in the term "confrontational", but I don't see how either of them would fit the rest of your comment about "the poster". Technically in this thread I suppose John on the Sunset Coast would be the default meaning of "the poster", but I'm not clear how anything he said would have elicited either of your criticisms. Could you clarify "the poster"?

And Bobert, thanks for the word "reparations". The last few times I've run into this issue (including at the WRAP training) people used the term "retribution" rather than "reparations", and clearly the latter is less punitive in connotation.

Haruo