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Thread #118245 Message #2578756
Posted By: Ron Davies
01-Mar-09 - 04:50 PM
Thread Name: BS: Nurse Suspended for praying ????
Subject: RE: BS: Nurse Suspended for praying ????
The "fantasy inferno" is in the mind of the rather imaginative atheist with the delightfully appropriate handle--who has no way to try to argue other than pathetic caricatures.
Believers in the 'fantasy inferno" are as much typical of all Christians as Hitler, Stalin and Mao are typical of all atheists.
Also, Bill, you don't want to get into the question of whether atheists or Christians have caused more harm. You will have to start out with the above trio--who have caused more deaths than anybody else in the history of the world---and you will never get out of that hole.
Now, rather than go down that blind alley, how about looking at the charity question from the viewpoint of somebody who receives that charity? Just why do you think it mattered one iota to somebody helped by a church or its members in trying to recover from Katrina, for instance, whether the charity was done for religious reasons or simple human altruism?
That's why your point about motivation is a total red herring.
You are completely correct in noting that much of the benefit of Christian charity is due to the fact that many Christians are organized. In fact, that is a very good point--in favor of organized religion. Thanks for that.
If atheists were as effective, they might have a leg to stand on in criticizing Christians.
As it is, they seem to take the "freethinker" label a little too seriously --with the result that they will never be organized--since they can hardly agree on anything.
So if you want to get into a petty and pointless contest on who does more good in the world, atheists have no chance. Sorry.
But that's not my subject in the least. All I want is a definite statement by all the Mudcat atheists commenting here that the world is better off with Christianity and Christians.
Which, aside from your posts, seems to be terribly painful for the Mudcat atheists--the others, therefore, are showing remarkably clear signs of being rabidly anti-religion.
Unsurprisingly.