I was not sneering at anyone who does good work and does it quietly without waving a banner. What I am heartily sick of is folk waviing "I'm a Christian of course" around as though it was some kind of magic flamin wand behaving as thought if you hit folk around the head often enough with it you can change thier thoughts.

Surely it is much better to walk quietly till someone says "What is it i see in you" then you can quietly say what it is you believe and why it made a difference to you.

also other people branding folk as rabid athiests is downright insulting many of these good people have a very strong personal faith it may not be the speakers it may not be mine but it is thiers and should be respedcted as such.