"Avast there Jim Lad - Jumpin' in with both feet again."
Hi Torpidness; still trying to dig yourself out of your self-dug holes with your mouth?
I would have thought that citing a country with Pakistan's human rights record as a guide for arresting a suspected terrorist a bit off the beam even for your crassness - I'm sure we are about to be told that this is not what you said, or what you mean, or that it is all left-wing propaganda, - even though it is well in line with your support for other repressive regimes (I understand your incontinent military butcher friends stand to be taken before a war-crimes court - let's see, shall we).
"Yes Pakistan's human rights record is poor, along with the human rights record of many other countries"- signifying what - that it's ok to abuse human rights if other countries do it - red herring!!!
Those 'other countries' guilty of abusing human rights can now include the U.S. in their not so distinguished ranks - or maybe internment without trial, 'extreme rendition', and torture flights to countries not so fussy in their uses of torture are yet another left-wing invention.
"but Pakistan is after all an Islamic Republic" suggesting that Islam automatically means repression, I suppose. Not being in any way religious I couldn't possibly comment, except to say that I'm sure the U.S. would describe itself as 'Christian', even though it indulges in torture and humiliation.
I have no idea if Binyam Mohammed is a terrorist, though I'm sure if he was the evidence would have been produced by now to prove the case. As it is, he is innocent in the eyes of the law until charged and convicted.
Was he tortured? Why not; that is now standard practice with the U.S. in its quaintly termed "War against tourism" (Thanks for that one Dubya).
Was Britain involved? Again, why not; it is well within line with its lickspittle policy of acting like a U.S. poodle, and it explains why Binyam Mohammed was given red-carpet treatment.
"If it's got feathers, webbed feet and quacks, it's pretty certain to be a duck."
I find the lynch-mob mentality that surfaces in these cases a terrifying confirmation of the 'Lord of the Flies' philosophy that if you scratch a civilised society you will find barbarism lurking just below the surface. As I said,innocent until conclusively and openly proved guilty.
This thread started on the strength (is that the word I'm looking for) of a news item in the pages of a true representative of Britain's sewer press. Sewers are invariably populated by vermin living off the waste matter of society.
Bon appétit.
Jim Carroll