Now lets see what we've got:"

I've got a better idea Christmas; let's see what you haven't got:

•        "1 We go to a consistent human rights abuser for our information of who is or who is not a terrorist - would this be the same guardians of law and order who have just overseen the slaughter of half a cricket team by any chance - yeh, I suppose that makes sense!!!"

Who's the "we" Christmas, the UK? The UK never questioned Binyam Mohammed, they couldn't have, he was never in UK custody.

Who would know who was, or who was not, a terrorist, someone with extremely good contacts and dialogue with the terrorists or someone who hasn't the foggiest notion where to start looking for the information?

My take on the conduct and degree of interrogation that Binyam Mohammed would accord exactly with what Al-Qaeda/the Taleban told the Pakistani Authorities about him. They told the Pakistani's that here was a guy with a British resident's permit who was going home to become part of the next spectacular – a "dirty bomb" wasn't it – while useless under training he now serves the cause by being a hi-profile "red-herring".

•        "2 Abu Graib, Camp X-ray, Guantanamo Concentration Camp, special rendition, collateral damage, Viet Nam, Napalm, Agent Orange, Mai Li, Grenada, military and political support for Pinochet, Papa Doc, the Contras.... and all the other 20th century monsters.... none of this ever really happened and is just a left wing invention by those of us who don't believe the sun shines out of the U.S.'s arse."

I don't believe anybody here is denying any of that happened, nobody is saying that it was an invention on the part of anybody. If you are trying to say that I have then please produce proof of that.

•        "3 The British government didn't really lead us into an illegal war in search of the mythical holy grail of 'Weapons of Mass Destruction' because their White House Boss told them to."

So we went into Iraq to find "Weapons of Mass Destruction" did we Christmas?? Where on earth did you get that notion from?? Certainly not from UNSC Resolution 1441, or from UNSC Resolutions 678 or 687.


•        "4 And last, but certainly not least; a man illegally detained by the heroes of number 3 over the last few years, returns from detention with a claim that he has been tortured and that the British SS colluded in providing information to facilitate his treatment."

Returns from detention?? If he was indeed returning from detention he would have gone to Pakistan wouldn't he, or perhaps his own native land Ethiopia, the place he has a passport from, the place he was born and brought up. He has no right to return to the UK, his previously issued temporary permit expired in 2004.

•        "Having previously agreed that he is innocent until proved guilty, and not having heard ANY of the evidence of his claim, you have decided (presumably with insider knowledge which you are unable to share with us at this present time) that his story (which story? - he hasn't had a chance to tell it yet - or isn't that necessary under your version of justice) is Cock-and-Bull, and want to ship him back to where he came from before he can give his account (and maybe drops Britain in the clarts again) -
Thank you for such a perfect example of 'lynch-mob mentality."

1.        I have agreed that he is innocent until proven guilty. I have also stated that I believe the point is moot as he is not going to be charged with anything in the UK.
2.        Where have I said that his story is "cock-and-bull" – And before you break your wrist activating the scroll down here is what I said in context:

"He has accused the UK of being involved in torture; there are grounds for believing that there is substance to his accusations so he should be allowed to stay at least until the matter is cleared up." - Christmas

"Why?? Why should he be allowed to stay?? Under that reasoning all anyone would have to do is invent some "cock-and-bull" story and then demand to stay until it is cleared up - Bollocks."

See the wording of the sentence that contains the expression "cock-and-bull".

Find out who the six "slaughtered" cricketers were then Christmas – the left's not into over egging the pudding is it Christmas.