"On my friend who made the '"no better than us" comment; she was not relating to the floor singers at the guest club. She was relating that guest to singers at our SIngers Club. As to her own singing, she very good with a relaxed voice and plays guitar with feeling. As far as I know has never had ambitions to make money from her music."

Iain,

This whole issue of guests being better than floorsingers (or the other way around) never even enters my head. At KFFC we may not put on floor singers and everyone pays to get in. However, a majority of the "support" act are drawn from those who attend the club..... and they definitely get in free or get expenses if they are travelling any distance when doing these spots. I guess this effectively means that the singers/ players get either a 20 or 40 minute slot once every 18 months or so rather than 1 song each month..... they do have to convince themselves and the club that they are capable of entertaining a paying audience for the duration of their set though.

Some of these people do have ambitions to take their perfrming further and some don't. So I don't see the divisions that you are talking about.... rather a continuum. Some of these support acts have gone on to a main guest slot at the club as well.... as well as putting themselves in the shop window for bookings at other clubs What is wrong with people wanting to take their talent out in front of other people? Why the big hang-up about who is best?

If your floor singer thinks she is as good as the guest she should go out there and get some bookings.... if she wants to.... her comments just aren't relevant if she doesn't want to.

Intersting debate.... I just don't see the gaping chasms that you seem to see though.

Paul