Bush in retrospect??? How about your preconceived notions and prejudices on display? This thread is like an attempt to describe the grand scale of the Sierra Nevadas while you're still in the rugged hills and forests of the slope.

I'm not saying that Bush was "Grand" either so don't take any more out of the analogy than face value. I'm saying that there simply has not been enough time lapsed to title a thread as a "retrospect". Think "Woodrow Wilson"! He is in pretty sharp view as far as his policies and promises went. We can see the good intentions and the bad outcomes. We see his grasp for power or at least "legacy" in establishing the League of Nations. I don't believe it will be our generation or even the next that has a clear retrospect of the Bushies, good or bad.

PS I am no fan of the Bush administration and that is based on my own leanings but I know it and can separate it from the facts. To that end the facts need to be established. Amos and some others have clearly done this. Context and relationship are a must.