"Schooner Industry, though not a shanty, came from the 1822 log of the Idustry, a whaling schooner.

The shanty "Hard Times in Old Virginia" has it's orgins from the days of slavery

Old Riley is another from the day s fo slavery

New York Girls, the older version with the refrain "you love us for our money" dates to the 1840's the same time given for "Western Ocean" & Blow the Man Down" which is suspected of coming from the older "Knock a Man Down"

Hugil lists 11 shanties dating between 1834-1836 that were sung onboard the Pilgram & Alert

Sally Brown is was refered to being sung aboard a pact by Captain Marryat, date 1837


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