All true Richard, but it's not a case of being "better" or "worse" than anybody, and as far as I can see nobody has ever suggested it is, apart from those who persist in erecting straw men in order to knock them down.
It's back to the old argument - should we have a base-line below which what we do (publicly) is unacceptable (in general terms - we can all all have an 'off' night)?
Surely our music is worth a loud YES
I've shown you mine - now you show me yours.
Jim Carroll