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Thread #118245   Message #2588883
Posted By: Bill D
14-Mar-09 - 03:25 PM
Thread Name: BS: Nurse Suspended for praying ????
Subject: RE: BS: Nurse Suspended for praying ????
"Bill says there's nothing after death, and you know what? That is absolutely RIGHT. But, here's where it gets strange; that reality applies to Bill alone."


awww....Bob... You wouldn't be trying to scare me, would you?

The thing is, we don't get to test it. We can make a bet, but if I ...and Mrrzy... are right, we can never collect, or even say smug things. If YOU are right, you get to at least smile as we get on the DOWN elevator.

I'm sorry, Bob....but simply stating that 'reality' is what you make it doesn't change a thing. This is a **belief**, and there are good reasons why we USE the term 'belief'. It is fine if you WISH to 'believe' X or Y, but nothing about absolute reality changes because you do.

The philosopher Blaise Pascal asserted years ago that it was at least more 'prudent' to believe in God, because you 'won' more if you were right, and you lost a LOT if you were wrong...and that at least, believing was safer because if there WAS no God, it didn't cost and you led a good life.
   Sadly, left out many of the possibilities. He just didn't take it to its conclusion.

So it is with theories of 'reality'. We can imagine all sorts of things, but just stating that "
"... whatever put us here allows each individual to create his/her reality. already **ASSUMES** that 'something put us here'.
   This is a
logical fallacy You can't prove a point by assuming the truth of your premises ahead of time. You 'may' be correct, but not for that reason.

Ah, well.... all *I* can do is explain why I am a skeptic. And to return to the poor, misunderstood nurse...why she was 'assuming' that it is never inappropriate to 'offer' spiritual help. The very offer 'assumes' that there are spiritual forces to be offered. IF the patient has such beliefs, asks the nurse if she (the nurse) does, and they wish to share those beliefs in prayer, fine. Even NON-believers may provide comfort, much as Peace 'prayed' with the accident victim.