A quick bit of Mudcat before I have an even quicker bite to eat before going to the singaround... apols to anyone who's point isn't picked up for the minute.

Tom Bliss - perhaps you have the key - Local Difficulties.

In some areas there is a history of cliquery - others sometimes for just a while, if you're lucky - none.

My experience extends only to three parts of England. In only one of these did I find it particularly bad. So you could argue I'm setting up an ideal Type for my argument (see Sociology theory). But it was evident in all there areas to some degree. My experience, as I've mentioned previously, has been endorsed by othe people living in different areas.

Live and let live - ideally! But you'll see from various threads that some DO see Guest clubs as superior - and some even deny Singers Clubs "CLUB" status. There is snobery in the folk scene - Emperor's New Clothes in some people's eyes?

I have to end for the minute but I want to answer any direct qestions.

Brief two?

Stuart - Marje has the answers - more, smaller sessions. As you know, we already peractice what we preach by running three small singarounds. If

Snail - only one of clubs with hard working members in the area? I wasn't compementing hard working organisers, I was complementing Lewes Folk Club policy re. welcoming all floor singers. I don't honestly think all clubs in our area welcome all floor singers - do you?

Ian Fyvie