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Thread #118245   Message #2590624
Posted By: Ron Davies
16-Mar-09 - 08:40 PM
Thread Name: BS: Nurse Suspended for praying ????
Subject: RE: BS: Nurse Suspended for praying ????
To boil this down to the essentials (obviously the nurse topic is long since beaten into the ground), let's go to the dictionary. Atheism: " disbelief in the existence of deity;" "doctrine there is no deity."

And what is this disbelief based on? Specious abuse of mathematics to play games with probability doesn't cut it, sorry. It's based on....uh...uh...the belief itself. And nothing else. Since there is no conclusive proof or even solid evidence. Yes there is no proof there is a God. Great straw man, congratulations. But there is no proof there is not. Since obviously there can be no proof on a proposition which is by definition unknowable. As anybody who depends on empirical evidence realizes. Why do you suppose there are so few atheist scientists?   In contrast to agnostic scientists. Because they realize it's an open question.

So the doctrine there is no deity is based on belief....i.e. faith.

Atheists have faith there is no God. Just as Christians (and Jews and Moslems) have faith that there is.

But there is a slight difference. Christians and other believers say directly their belief is based on faith. Atheists don't admit this about their belief.

So, it seems, atheism and atheists, in addition to their other charms (especially on Mudcat)-- e.g. ignorance of history, refusal to do research before sounding off, etc.-- are in addition, intellectually dishonest.