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Thread #11324   Message #2597960
Posted By: Joe Offer
26-Mar-09 - 02:58 PM
Thread Name: Lyr/Tune Req: Oh How He Lied
Subject: RE: Lyr/Tune Req: Oh How He Lied
I wonder what the name of the melody/tune/air is - it sure feels familiar. Meredith/Covell/Brown (Folk Songs of Australia, Volume 2, pages 130-131) notes that the tune for this is derived from "The Evening Stars," a waltz by Joseph Franz Karl Lanner (1801-1843, a contemporary -and competitor- of Johann Strauss) - but I don't know any tunes by Joseph Franz Karl Lanner, whoever HE is. Meredith/Covell/Brown say that other variants of this waltz are played by Joe Cashmere as "The Orphan Boy" and by Mick Pilley as "I've Got a Saviour That's Mighty to Keep."
Here's the Traditional Ballad Index entry (which spells Lanner's name wrong):

Oh, How He Lied

DESCRIPTION: An "old villain" sits by a girl and smokes his cigar. She plays her guitar. "He told her he loved her but oh how he lied." They agree to marry, "but she up and died." She goes to heaven, he to hell ("sizzle, he fried"), listeners are warned against lies
AUTHOR: unknown
EARLIEST DATE: 1928 (recording, Joe Foss & his Hungry Sand Lappers)
KEYWORDS: courting marriage music death lie Hell humorous
FOUND IN: US Australia
REFERENCES (4 citations):
Meredith/Covell/Brown, pp. 130-131, "Don't Tell a Lie" (1 text, 1 tune)
Pankake-PHCFSB, p. 257, "She Sat on Her Hammock" (1 text)
Silber-FSWB, p. 31, "Oh, How He Lied" (1 text)
DT, HELIED*

Roud #13621
RECORDINGS:
Joe Foss & his Hungry Sand Lappers, "Oh How She Lied" (Columbia 15268-D, 1928)
Pete Seeger, "Oh How He Lied" (on PeteSeeger31)

NOTES: Meredith/Covell/Brown notes that the tune for this is a waltz by Joseph Franz Karl Lanner. - RBW
File: FSWB031B

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You'll find a great recording of this on the Pete Seeger American Favorite Ballads box set, coming out April 21.