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Thread #119594   Message #2598279
Posted By: Gibb Sahib
26-Mar-09 - 11:06 PM
Thread Name: Sing, Sally-O / Mudder Dinah
Subject: Round the Corner Sally
Well, here's another to add to the bunch, since I think they are all vaguely related: "Round the Corner, Sally." I find no thread for this song, but this fragment in a different thread is relevant, HERE.

Anyway, I've just worked up a rendition of this chantey, and here are some of my notes (below). And while in this case I'm aware that this particular chantey is a bit more known, still I don't hear much of it.

"Round the Corner, Sally" is a halyard chantey, which Hugill learned from Harding. The tune of this version is different from the version published by Sharp and Terry, although the basic melodic contour is the same. Mainly it's the meter/rhythm that is different (Hugill's in 2/2, others in 6/8). Although I've noted Hugill's notations to sometimes get the rhythm wrong, say, converting compound into simple meter, in this case it may be more due to the fact that the source for one was an Englishman (John Short) while the other was sung by a Barbadian.

I also want to note that the Cecil Sharp version is of the "three-phrase hauling format" that I mentioned re: "Sister Susan." (Hugill's has the standard 2-phrase format.) I think this is significant because these two chanteys have other similarities. Of note: Hugill connects the phrase "Round the corner, Sally" to a line in a Christy's Minstrel song, "Aunt Sally" -- and "Aunt Sally" is a character in versions of "Sister Susan" chantey or another minstrel song, "Shinbone Al."

Another song is a candidate as a source for "Round the Corner, Sally." It appears in the text of a James Hungerford, in which the author describes a visit to his cousin's plantation in Maryland in 1832. With it's musical notations, it is considered to be the first extant text to contain slave songs. "Roun' De Corn, Sally" is described in the context of rowing a boat, but properly attributed as a corn-husking song. In his 1989 book, ORIGINS OF THE POPULAR STYLE, pg.206, Peter Van der Merwe makes a connection between the similar phrase in the slave song and the chantey, thinking that "round the corn" was a corruption of the chantey phrase, due to confounding the "corn" context with the original meaning. The original phrase, as supposed by Hugill, was a sort of "gal on the street," later reinterpreted as a sailor's lady-friend of locales that were around the "corner": Cape Horn. However, some recent interpreters seem to suggest that the plantation song was a source. At least that is how I interpret the inclusion of "Roun' De Corn, Sally" in the repertoire of the sea chantey group The Johnson Girls: clip

No doubt, any number of individuals made the connection between the phrase in these two songs before Van der Merwe's published statement. I actually stumbled myself upon the Hungerford text in a volume by Eileen Southern, READINGS IN BLACK AMERICAN MUSIC (1971) that I picked up by chance in a used book store in Mass. This is a supplemental text of primary sources meant to accompany her book THE MUSIC OF BLACK AMERICANS. My guess is that the chantey group Forebitter, who make the connection on one of their CD's liner notes, followed by the Johnson Girls, had discovered the plantation song in Southern's main text. However, the full set of verses is only found in "READINGS..." ("Roun' De Corn" was also reproduced, in abbreviated form, in a book by Epstein, 1977.)

For what it's worth, besides the characteristic phrase, the plantation song and the chantey don't show much similarity. They do appear to be contemporary though. The plantation song is from 1832 and the chantey is cited by name in Dana's TWO YEARS BEFORE THE MAST in which he describes events along the California coast in the 1830s.

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