I've never been fond of Staffs, being a collie man myself but we've just come back from holiday and the owners of the cottage we were staying at had an 8-month old Staff who was utterly bonkers but bags of fun. Our 14-year old working sheepdog didn't want the mither and gave him short shrift although he certainly didn't take the hint. He was full of youth! Always off in their (huge) garden on some sort of doggy mission.

"But back to the subject of the thread, I understand your points Jack, but how will terrorising a banker and his family, or beating policemen up and breaking windows in London make things better for people who really are oppressed (not just jealous, moaning bastards like some on here)?"

It won't, and I'm a typical soft lefty who abhors violence of any kind, and I can't see the point in singling out one greed bastard from a whole raft of them. I can understand their frustration to a degree as they feel they have no voice (my own MP states we don't vote for him to represent our views in Parliament, but because we agree with his views; so much for democratic representation . . .).

Goodwin will get away with this because the people in charge are like him, and that's a tough pill for people with little hope of work or who are losing their homes or income to swallow. But having been here in the 80's I can't see how things are going to change unless we change the system, as when the going gets tough the civil unrest starts.