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Thread #119776   Message #2604932
Posted By: doc.tom
05-Apr-09 - 05:07 AM
Thread Name: 'Rare' Caribbean shanties of Hugill, etc
Subject: RE: 'Rare' Caribbean shanties of Hugill, etc
Short had four shanties inclusing Stormy.

CARRY HIM TO THE BURYING GROUND (GENERAL TAYLOR) (2903)
It may be surprising, given its widespread popularity in the revival, that this shanty is comes only from Sharp & Terry (i.e. Short, ) – and of course Stan had his own Harding the Barbadian version. SHARP: 'I know of no other printed versions of this chantey, nor have I heard it sung by anybody else. The grace notes in the chorus are very remarkable and were beautifully sung by Mr. Short.' TERRY: 'I have heard no one sing this save Mr. Short. The tune differs at several points (notably bars 6 & 7, page 59) from C.J. Sharp's printed version taken down from Mr. Short. But I have set it down exactly as he sang it to me.' HUGILL "[this] comes from the same [gulf port or West Indian] part of the world and in all probability has stemmed from a slave song. [gives close variant – from Harding the Barbarian]. May of the ordinary and the 'liverning up' verses from Mister Stormalong were used to this tune."   Note Sharp's very detailed transcription of Short's decoration – particularly compared to Terry's minimal effort! Stormy only appears in the chorus, verses include General Taylor, Dan O' Connel & Wish I was in etc.

OLD STORMEY (MISTER STORMALONG/AY-AY-AY) (2896).
Very widely published - right back to 1880s by L.A.SMITH "A hint of decidedly negro origin in the word 'Massa', A great favourite often sung after a gale of wind. Notes the contrast between solemnity of the tune and the mock-seriousness of the words." Short's word-set is the general Wish I was Old Stormy's son, Saw him die, chains & spades, verses.

STORMALONG JOHN (STORMY ALONG JOHN)(2928). Again, published by L.A.SMITH "The oldest of these [Stormy] songs [this] is rather the best." SHARP 20: "This is apparently an entirely different chantey from "Old Stormey" (No. 34) although the words of the first two verses are the same. Know of no variants except one given by Miss Smith (p. 16)." TERRY 10. This is one of the many shanties with 'Stormy' as their hero. Whatever other verses were extemporized, those relating to digging his grave with a silver spade, and lowering him down with a golden chain, were rarely omitted. Other favourite verses were: (a) I wish I was old Stormy's son. (b) I'd build a ship a thousand ton." COLCORD: [from notes to Mister Stormalong]. "Another version, differing somewhat both in words and tune, was used for pumping:
        Stormalong and round she'll go,
        To me way, aye, Stormalong John!
        Stormalong through frost and snow,
        Come along, get along, Stormalong John."

LIZA LEE (YANKEE JOHN STOMALONG)(2956) SHARP: "The only variant of this that I know of is printed by Bullen (No. 27)." TERRY2: Sung to me by Mr. Short. It is a better version than those sung by Sir Walter Runciman and others. I have... given Mr. Short's version." HUGILL: "For the last of the Stormalong family we have: [this]" No source given, but not Short's tune. Shorts word-set = Liza Lee she promised/slighted me & floating verses such as Up aloft this yard must go, etc.

So there a fair amount pre-Hugill for Lloyd et al to draw on.

TomB