MTed Actualy I've been teaching for the last 20 years at an outdoor education centre and see about 120 kids each week and 100's of teachers who deal with dozens of parents each and the general concensis is that parenting has deminished a lot in the last 10 years

I don't understand how having your own kids makes you an authority on how the worlds kids will grow up fine by living indoors afraid to go out and make real friends instead of computer chatroom buddies that they don't actualy interact with.

No I don't have kids of my own but I see more kids than the average bear.

Kat it sounds like your grankids all have loving situations with more than just one parent guiding them and thats great. But your situation is the eception

GFS I blame Bush for a lot but if you raise an asshole it's not washingtons fault.