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Thread #119547   Message #2611763
Posted By: Jack Blandiver
15-Apr-09 - 12:19 PM
Thread Name: 1954 and All That - defining folk music
Subject: RE: 1954 and All That - defining folk music
This will have to be my last post on the thread.

Sorry to see you go, Glueman - I know we're coming at this from slightly different corners but once the folk police begin to close in for the kill, it's a comfort to know that there is at least someone else on this thread who can think outside the box.

Sorry - you're lying - the terms in which you presented a night at your club make that fairly obvious.
But just in case I'm misjudging you - what do you think of what you described?


All I did was to describe an average night at The Fleetwood Folk Club, much like dozens of other folk clubs I've been to over the years; I'm not hyping it, nor am I advocating it, simply celebrating what happens. What do I think of it? Does it matter what I think of it? Fact is the people who go enjoy themselves very much indeed or else they wouldn't go - and on a good night (say 7/10) it can be transcendent.

(Waits patiently while half-a-dozen more irrelevant clips are put up)

Just reminding you of what we're on about that's all. Here's another:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4Y_tuSsCXw

You're clearly celebrating the way things are in (some) contemporary folk clubs

All clubs I'd say, Pip - to a greater or lesser extent anyway; even those where Trad. is high on the agenda, such as The Beech.

proposing that the word 'folk' should be used to reflect those clubs

Not just the clubs, but the usage of the word as a whole, from CDs, radio stations, magazines, labels, fora etc etc. And not proposing, just telling it - er - like it is.

and advocating that the rest of us join you in abandoning any alternative definition.

There is no alternative definition - just a meaningless shibboleth concocted 7 years before I was born that has even rejected by the people who came up with it. Still, it would appear to have become the cornerstone of a new faith entirely, that which thinks that Folk Song and Traditional Song are one and the same thing. Wrong! Now - go figure.

Otherwise - how nice you look in your new uniform, Pip - and my, aren't the Folk Police looking younger these days?