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Thread #115854   Message #2620978
Posted By: akenaton
29-Apr-09 - 02:49 AM
Thread Name: BS: Californians Oppose 'Prop 8' Gay Marriage Ban
Subject: RE: BS: Californians Oppose 'Prop 8' Gay Marriage Ban
Well the problem as far as I see it Hawk,is that whenever the Pro homosexual marriage brigade hit a problem in the debate, they fall back to the "homophobia" and personal abuse position.
This discussion is not about the pro's and con's of homosexuality, although they may need to be discussed from time to time to illustrate a point.

The discussion is about "rights"......if there is such a thing as universal rights, and if peoples behaviour affects some of their "rights".....or affects the "rights" of a totally different group of people.

I am not anti homosexual......that would be a ridiculous position to take....and I have argued my case on that to DonT and Amos further up the thread.
What I see now, is the pro homosexual marriage group coming together to produce the very effect you described a few posts ago....burn the witch!!
Frankly I hate bigotry of all kinds and from GfS's posts, I would say he/she is also a lover of freedom and it is disappointing to see even Amos write of "the pleasure of hating". Posts from Don T, Tia and others are equally abusive. Don Firth' s lauded post is also simply a psuedo-emotional cover for a charge of bigotry and a defence of "we all must be allowed to do exacly as we please, regardless of other people's views"
Perhaps I should have used the word "loaded" rather than "lauded".