Little Hawk:.."The important thing in any discussion is that those participating actually take the time to listen seriously to what the others are saying and understand it. That requires patience and attention. It also requires shutting down your own internal monologue briefly and being receptive, rather than just having your mind fixed on the very next thing YOU are going to say when that other person finishes talking! ;-)


frogprince asks:
"Would you be happy to see your child or sibling marry a person who has a history of homosexuality, but has undergone corrective therapy?"

frogprice,...(may I call you Mr. Frogprince?)
Being as I thought you, sincere, when you posted,...'..That is a soul searching question..", you, in posting that, actually touched me, so, I owe you one....Whether that is a loaded question or not, I'll answer you as comprehensively as should suffice to satisfy your curiosity. I mean that, in all sincerity, as well. Just to let you know, I gave it much thought, and this is as good as I could come up with. It may not be in exactly in the format, you requested, but I assure you, my position is honest, and should be absolutely clear..OK?

Though whether a person, hetero or homosexual, has had previous sexual 'activity' in their past, is not an issue, though in either case, experience, (perhaps even yours, among many peoples), has shown us that in valuing what we do with our bodies in that area, for any number of reasons, often, less is better, as not to de-sensitize one's motives and heart. It also lessens the regret, and sometimes heartaches, that accompany reckless deceptions people often 'bestow' upon each other.
Keeping your eyes open, objectively, for what you want, and what you want to give, in this life, keeps you focused on your priorities, including what you need to do, and who you wish to do it with, and be life's partner with.
When a man get's past his lusts, and/or imaginations, and a woman past her fears, or insecurities, and both get past their self absorptions, (to at least, actually 'meet' the other),and for the reason of giving their very lives to and for each other, make both commitments in their hearts, and to each other, with the full expectation that commitment will last, and be maintained for their entire lifetimes. They should bring both their masculinity, and femininity, to each other, to complete the full spectrum, and be as a whole, genuine unit.
When they have sex, may their orgasms be strong in a way, that besides the man merely giving her his bodily fluid, he may also even feel his life's force, entering into her, and may she soar among the stars, in love...and may he be exhausted, to the point of desiring nothing,(maybe except for air), and may she know, in her joy, that she brought him 'home'.
Should they conceive during one of those moments, that the child in her,(another 'marriage', of sorts), be loved, born, nurtured, and be made strong, loving life, and treating it with reverence, under the covering, of BOTH of their best, with the goal of making a path clear, to continue on, and making it easier, for the child, conceived, and raised by, and for love. Preferably, not putting obstacles, for him/her to overcome, and bringing and presenting him or her to maturity with a healthy, positive outlook in life, spiritually, physically, mentally, and emotionally.
When you see these folks, gray and silver frost upon their heads, walking, hand in hand, heads held high, with life's history, and warmth in their eyes, after all these years, of loving, caring, through, their victories, and tragedies, and never diminishing their love for each other, since the first met, well man....that turns me on!!!
That being said, any compromise from that, is in direct proportion to regret, disappointment, misfortune and sadness, as many of you know by now, that in we can exist.
Now, to me, that is just about the top rung of the human experience. From there, it's only steps down. Whether you compromise your personal disciplines, is your business. But why fart around? Go for the top..if you go for 10, and don't make it, you might hit an 8, but it's still better than aiming your goal at 3.
Why'd ya' ask?

Don Firth, I considered your post, (about artificial insemination, and this came to mind, something I think you'd enjoy, Aldus Huxley's 'Brave New World', and as a companion read, 'Plato's Republic'. Look's like it's going that way....

TAI, ..'The weak accuse others, of their own motives'

Amos,..Are you still confused if I'm male or female...actually truth has no gender, I'm only just words on your screen. Don't throw out your computer, though...(wink).

Akenaton, Homosexuality is not the 'cause' of societies dying...history tells us that it is a symptom, of one that already is...but then, history also tells us, that man never learns from history!!

Little Hawk, Yoho, Thank you for:
"The important thing in any discussion is that those participating actually take the time to listen seriously to what the others are saying and understand it. That requires patience and attention. It also requires shutting down your own internal monologue briefly and being receptive, rather than just having your mind fixed on the very next thing YOU are going to say when that other person finishes talking! ;-)

Everyone should have equal rights, as CITIZENS, not because of who you, or what you have sex with......besides, less than the real thing, is bullshit!
Warmest Regards and Love to Everyone.
GfS