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Thread #115854   Message #2622857
Posted By: Little Hawk
01-May-09 - 05:56 PM
Thread Name: BS: Californians Oppose 'Prop 8' Gay Marriage Ban
Subject: RE: BS: Californians Oppose 'Prop 8' Gay Marriage Ban
Don, you consistently misunderstand me.

My stand is this: I have NO objection whatsoever to gay couples getting married if they wish to, and I have no objection to them being legally allowed to do so. No objection. They have my blessing.

Got that????????????????????????

Please tell me you do.

Now, I am also concerned about some of the points that Akenaton and others have raised, quite apart from that, and I agree with some of their concerns. I am concerned about how the mass media and certain people who have what amounts to an obsession about this particular issue have arranged for it to occupy such an oversized piece of everyone's attention for a decade or so now.

I think it's way out of balance, I think it's a tempest in a teapot, I think it's a political ploy by certain special interests for their own (political) gain, and I think there are people on BOTH sides of this debate who are likewise out of balance over the whole thing and are using it as a political ploy, and THAT is why I favour some statements and disagree with some statements on BOTH sides of the fucking debate!!!!!!!!!!!!

Can you understand that or it is too inconceivable to you that a human being doesn't HAVE to be 100% totally partisan on one or the other side of two sets of arguing people?

It isn't just a case of Black/White, Good/Evil, All-wrong/All-right in this world, Don. There are shades of gray in most situations. There are fools, fanatics, demagogues, and highly prejudiced people carryin on on BOTH sides of most highly charged debates in this world, and they are the people who fuck things up for most of the rest of us by their mutual intolerance for one another and their determination to dominate the airwaves and persecute US with their particular obsession, whatever it is.

I DO take a stand, Don. I take a stand for fairness, even-handedness, moderation, tolerance, and willingness to listen to other people rather than just bleating some politically correct slogan at them and mentally patting yourself on the back while you do it for being such a terrifically great and moral guy, and that's what I see a lot of people doing here a great deal of the time. They are eager to find someone else to judge and condemn, someone else to label as "bigot" or "racist" or "pro-homo", but they have precious little interest in understanding what the other person is attempting to say...or why. I object to THAT.

Do you understand me NOW? If not, I must assume you have never even tried to. I get so fed up with this endless bullshit from you about my supposed "colourless neutrality"...Christ! I can hardly believe it each time you say it.