Well, sorry, Little Hawk, but that's the way you come on, as if standing in a neutral corner and remarking on the "human weaknesses" of the participants in the discussion without really getting involved in the discussion itself. Then you return from time to time to take pot-shots without actually stating an opinion of your own.

And by the way, if you don't know enough about something to venture an opinion, you might consider not taking those pot-shots at people who have spent considerable time researching the matter and have facts upon which to base their opinions.

"The argument about genetic predisposition (or not) is simply not what concerns me in this discussion, and I'm not inclined to argue about it one way or the other. I have no basis for arguing about it."

Okay, then why are you here, other than to snipe?

Don Firth