If this is what is going on at Westminster,how much worse must it be in Brussels ?? Not as if England has any representation there,as there are no English MEPs : Scottish MEPs, yes,Welsh represntatives,naturally,Northern Irish MEPs,probably (as far as I know),but no English MEPs,as Europe does not recognise England as country in its own right ---I wonder how many Americans realise that England does not officially exist ?? My point being that,since all the other politicians in Europe have their noses deep in the trough of European Parliament corruption,the English,being denied this relief,probably feel justified in indulging in a few fiddles of their own.Of course,this does not justify the disgraceful behaviour of the other "nationalities" represented at Westminster,especially the Scottish,who have a disproportionate ( and illegal) number of MPs installed there ;however,it would have been nice to think that the English "Honourable Members" could at least have set a decent example------which they patently have NOT !!