Glueman invents meanings to suit himself -both for "diegesis" and for "folk".

"Diegeses" - a narrative, a statement of a case". Oxford English Dictionary.

Glueman, if the above questions are representative of your questions generally, then they are plainly self-serving irrelevancies, and no basis for rejecting the Karpeles defintion out of hand.

I know of no-one who has rejected out of hand as flawed in its nature the famous US definition of a democracy - government of the people for the people by the people - the expression "the people" is in widespread current use, and I know off hand of no wide divergence about its meaning.

But even more damning of Glueman's bona fides, the word "people" is not actually part of the Karpeles definition: -

"Folk music is the product of a musical tradition that has been evolved through the process of oral transmission.

The factors that shape the tradition are:
(i)         Continuity which links the present with the past:
(ii)        Variation which springs from the creative impulse of the individual or group:
(iii)        Selection by the community, which determines the form or forms in which the music survives.

The term can be applied to music that has been evolved from the rudimentary beginnings by a community uninfluenced by popular music and art music, and it can likewise be applied to the music which has originated with an individual composer and has subsequently been absorbed into the unwritten living tradition of a community.

The term does not cover composed popular music that has been taken over ready—made by a community and remains unchanged, for it is the refashioning and recreation of the music by the community that gives its folk character."

Likewise, the absolute requirement of anonymity is not part of the Karpeles definition. It was a conclusion of Sharp's.


In short, Glueman, you are not a builder but a despoiler and there is no reason to listen to you on this topic.