Well, we all sometimes get a little too vehement when our emotions are strongly involved in something, KB. It happens.

My problem is that GfS presents the argument this way on a regular basis. Ake gets carried away on occasion (as do some of those with whom I agree on this issue) but not as standard practice.

"well frankly, you can go fuck yourselves in you little pea brain. You don't know shit

Really, you expect me to take this seriously? Should I alter my position based on this? Like I said, up to this point it was a good post but this blew away the goodwill that had been built up. This is not a verbal sparring match where things come out before you have a chance to reflect. We are sitting at our keyboards and can re-read what we have written before we hit 'submit message'.