THANK YOU PEACE thats going to save me hours of brain numbing infuriating searching!!!!!!!!!!!!
well now you have solved my problem is there anything i can help you with?   
we just got a bnp leaflet through the door so we are a bit worried that with all the scandals lately that they might just get in. so fingers crossed that people are sensible enough so see through them.
take care and thanks again from jeddy x