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Thread #120320   Message #2632597
Posted By: Bill D
15-May-09 - 11:52 AM
Thread Name: BS: Obama and torture
Subject: RE: BS: Obama and torture
Lemmee see if I got this right.

Bush, Cheney & various attorneys & advisors took 9/11 as an excuse to pursue an invasion of Iraq, costing many billions and taking many more lives than 9/11, based on faulty intelligence and wishful thinking, and then tried to justify it....both BEFORE & AFTER the fact ....by the use of interrogation measures which experts told them didn't work and were not designed for such use.
They then tried to cover up their bad policies with bad logic ("it's not illegal if the president authorizes it") and misleading 'briefings' and 'classified' memos.
Now they and their supporters and those who are desperately trying to salvage any bit of 'face' for the Republican party are trying to distract us from the issue by saying, "Hey, no matter WHAT we did, Pelosi and others shoulda figgered out from those carefully done 'briefings' what was really happening in 'enhanced interrogation'!"

Have I got that about right?

The CIA 'briefers' were very careful in precisely what they told Congress. If you want to assert that Pelosi & others 'should have gotten the picture', I can't stop you, but *I* intend to wait until more facts are out to agree that Pelosi & Goss & others knew exactly what what was happening, and *I* intend to focus on the FACTS that the interrogation practices were illegal and immoral and were done on bad advice and for the wrong reasons and caused more problems than they fixed.