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Thread #120835   Message #2633571
Posted By: Bill D
16-May-09 - 06:41 PM
Thread Name: BS: Logical vs superstitious thinking
Subject: RE: BS: Logical vs superstitious thinking
Following up on Dororthy Pashall and M. Ted:

One must indeed be very careful about the use of language, .....and of technical terms.

"To me, it is totally logical; .." is a problem in itself. Logic is something not related to personal attitudes. I'm sure Dorothy means the use of certain ways of focusing is useful, but 'logical' implies validity within a set of premises, not 'true' or 'real'...etc. The phrase "spirit based" means something TO Dorothy, but to readers it can seem to imply something she may-or may- not mean about what actually IS.

It is possible to construct totally 'logical' syllogisms that either have no meaning at all, or begin with false or dubious premises- leading to conclusions that cannot be trusted.

Why is this important? Because humans have the ability to use symbols, concepts, words...etc., that help them focus, refer, describe, etc, yet which have no referents in the real world. It can be described as a form of poetry. The danger is when one crosses that line from 'useful poetic concept' to tacitly assuming there IS a 'reality' to the concept(s).

Just because we all 'know' what a unicorn looks like, it does not follow that there are any....and the same holds true for angels, ghosts, elves, and other ideas.
(yes, I know...it doesn't prove there are not, but there IS some need to know which things can be independently verified.)

Similarly, people sometimes treat ideas like 'bad luck' as if they are some sort of 'force', rather than a simple description of desirable vs. undesirable events.

So, yes...words are tricky, and superstition often involves attributing too much to their referent.