Yeah, seems that even if it does work in certain circumsatnces who is to know exactly which certain circumstance is ***the*** certain circumstance??? So, you might get good or bad intellegence with torture... The problem is that when you plan field operations around "good or bad" intellegence you get a mixed bag of failure and success...

Folks who outsmart the folks they are trying to get information from get better intellegence because in outsmarting these folks what is told them is more accurate than torture... This has been stated by expert after expert...

Now we learn that much of the torture that has been carried out was done so after private contractors suggested these meathods??? Who exactly made private contarctors the authority on intellegence???

B~