I can see this thread is beginning to unravel, but that never seems to stop me putting in my .02.

However much Madonna tries to reinvent herself, the woman is an exhibitionist. Songs like "Papa Don't preach" have done a LOT of harm.

Numerous friends stopped liking "Sisters of Mercy" when I enlightened them to the fact Leonard Cohen was talking about prostitutes. I can't forgive him for his penchant for sleeping with underage females. I understand he defiantly refused to apologize for that. If you love *Beautiful Losers* I suggest you think about that. It's nothing but people hurting each other, over and over and over.

Hitler grew up (literally) with the Pan-Germanic movement which was rabidly anti-Semitic. Since he hated his father, who was a leader of same, he couldn't admit that's where his politics came from, but the apple didn't fall far from the tree just the same. Unfortunately, that history was a reality from Austria to England. Wagner was a bum, and so were a lot of Europeans, from D.H Lawrence to the Windsors. (And while I'm on my soapbox, the cultural Germany of Spinoza, and Heinrich Heine, et. al, was refined and elegant and worthy.)

"That's What You Get for Loving Me" speaks for itself.