That's what I mean, Ron. They were fighting for Germany. That's what I MEAN when I say "that society". And they were fighting, naturally, for their fellow soldiers, and their families, towns, and cities....as any soldier does.

If you weren't so busy trying by hook or by crook to find something...anything....some tiny bit of minutiae...to disagree with me about, you wouldn't keep misunderstanding what I am saying in the first place.

Your combative attitude is the problem here, Ron. We DO not disagree about anything substantial on this subject, and you are wasting your time and mine looking for a dispute that isn't real.