GfS, there are men who have had the same sort of relationship with there fathers that you describe in you post above, who did not become homosexual, and there are men who have perfect fine relationships who did grow up homosexual. So all you have is anecdotal evidence.

Read the Scientific American article.

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'Twould appear that this thread is pretty well winding down. Little Hawk won his bet that it would go to 1300 posts, so there must be great rejoicing in that quarter, with Chongo buying the beer all around and all of the world's dachshunds wagging there tails and smiling broadly.

It's pretty hard to quarrel with the overwhelming weight of the latest scientific evidence published in those Scientific American articles on the origins of gender orientation, establishing that discrimination on that account is, indeed, a civil rights issue, and there is just no rational response to the argument that stable same-sex marriages should greatly reduce the transmission of HIV.

Sorry, guys. But life can be a bitch sometimes.

Get a more defensible cause next time.

Don Firth