I have come to the conclusion that we didn't know how well off we were when Labour meant the likes of David Owen, Bob Marshall-Andrews, John Smith et al.

Honest socialists to a man, and even if you didn't agree with their politics, you knew where you stood with them.

They were decent and honourable men of conscience.

There are STILL many such in all three major parties, and any ONE of them is worth TEN of the pseudo patriot brigade.

Don T.