"If they want to 'change, and or heal', allow them! All this other stuff does, is deny them, because it says that it doesn't exist, and there is nothing that can't be done, once they're in the box, that denies there is anything TO deal with!!!!!!"

No, GfS, it does not. Undoubtedly the argument will go on. And while you favor laws banning same sex marriage, no one is advocating passing a law to prevent a homosexual person who would like to try to change his or her sexual orientation from going to some kind of therapist who claims they can help them do it.

And as to the CDC's statistics, the pie chart shows that 47% of those who have AIDS are homosexual men. You and Ake are conveniently ignoring the fact that that leaves 53% of those with AIDS who are not homosexual men.

Male homosexual behavior does not cause AIDS, as you and Ake keep trying to imply. It is one of several different ways that HIV can be transmitted—including heterosexual intercourse.

By the way, in your last few posts you are seperating you paragraphs with a blank line, making them much more readable. Thank you.

Don Firth