Leej, I tend to agree with your last paragraph and with your comments to Sorcha. I would also say that in many ways we have given up freedoms in exchange for other things, such as security. But Larry's observation is very common among a lot of people, and I'm willing to play the game for the sake of conversation.

In other words, I'll grant you your point Larry. Don't convince me of that which is wrong. I think you may see greater wrongs from where you are than where we are. Perhaps we're too dumb to notice. However, for the sake of argument here, I'll stipulate your police state. Again then.......Whatcha' gonna' do?

Spaw