Alas John there is no consensus. Scratch the surface even of most folkies and you find consumerists and capitalists. Look at Pig's Ear over the weekend. Most people there were eating the pub meals at £8 per head upwards. Ake is right that revolution is necessary, but the problem has long been to find a trustworthy revolutionary. Cuba did well by its people for a long time, despite US capitalist aggression, but will it now last? Remember 1984 (the book)? Revolutions exchange the middle class for the ruling class, and the working class remains dispossessed and opressed. This applies of course to both workers by hand and workers by brain (look inside the university system: I know sessional lecturers who after taking into account preparation time, travelling time and marking time are working for under minimum wage - the direct consequence of the application of Thatcherite principles to education).