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Thread #119776   Message #2648696
Posted By: Gibb Sahib
04-Jun-09 - 09:52 PM
Thread Name: 'Rare' Caribbean shanties of Hugill, etc
Subject: RE: 'Rare' Caribbean shanties of Hugill, etc
Continuing on with the discussion of individual chanteys...

"John Kanaka" is, of course, not rare by any means. However, in every other way it really fits into this "category." I just want to make a couple notes.

Print: Hugill (1961 and 1969); Eckstorm (1927)
Recording: Hugill in 1962, then...on to the stratosphere

Notes:
One of those "one-source" chanteys that, had Hugill not popularized it for whatever reason, would be in the same boat with the others here. It's from Harding, and Hugill said very little about it in the first text-- no doubt unaware of the popularity it would achieve.

I have said earlier that I think there is a cluster of chanteys cut from the same mold, which may include: Kanaka, "Mobile Bay," "John Cherokee," "Essequibo River," and maybe even "John Dameray." They all have a format with 3 solo phrases, the third being more vocables than lyrics. They're all ascribed to the Caribbean; all but 1 from Harding.

My question is whether anyone has discussed the song included in Eckstorm's MINSTRELSY OF MAINE (1927), titled "Too-li-aye", with the text,

//
Jan Kanaganaga, too-li-aye
//

Although Colcord had mentioned it in conjunction with "John Cherokee," Hugill does not mention it (not in his bibliography).

The Eckstorm book is out of print, though found in quite a few libraries I think. Unfortunately I don't have convenient access to one these days. Can anyone with it make a statement of its resemblance to Hugill/Harding's version?