"...the mistake that makes Bill Day so frustrated (not to say occasionally tiresome). :>)"

gee, I'm glad you're not gonna say that. ;>))

At least we sort of agree that the criteria for evaluating those different type of experience ARE different....and at least there's not so much directly at stake in favoring one interpretation over the other....as there IS in debates over religious views. The two views are phenomenologically related, but one is not 'quite' so loaded with emotional & cultural angst as the other. "Eternal Life" is a pretty hot topic compared with the status of thought patterns in the brain/mind.

(Now, I'm going to bed...and I'll look in the morning to see if I think I really said much there.)