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Thread #121535   Message #2655054
Posted By: GUEST,lox
12-Jun-09 - 02:50 PM
Thread Name: Billy Bragg and incitement to violence
Subject: RE: Billy Bragg and incitement to violence
"You people who are venting your bile here at the BNP are afraid of the BNP. You're afraid of them because they aren't like you."

LH,

You aren't paying attention.

Its time to find out what you're talking about because you're starting to come across like you're being wilfully ignorant.

Here is the news!

The BNP are a white supremacist party, who believe that non white people should be expatriated from Britain.

They do not support their views with arguments or evidence.

They support their views with violence.

They also believe that homosexuality should be outlawed and they believe that disable dpeople are a drain on resources.

Again, they do not support these views with evidence or argument, they do so with violence.

A lot of cowardly vicious remorseless violence, only made even less palatable by their apparent enjoyment of it.

I know many people of Asian and African origin who have been forced to defend themselves from grievous assault.

I know white people who have disagreed with the BNP and been hospitalized as a consequence.



So what .....


... here's what.



They know and I do that the BNP must never be allowed to flourish.

They stand for the same politics as the Nazi's of world war II and would repeat those crimes if they ever got into power.

The Bile you talk about is utterly justified.



On the question of people being "different" - it's bad enough that you should presume to be so judgemental, but what makes my blood boil most about your comments is that they are based on utter ignorance of the subject.

When the Nazis rise again, what will you be doing?

Persuading people that we all need to be more tolerant of them?

Forming the new Vichy Government?

or will you be in the back of one of their lorries wishing you'd listened as they dispose of you for being another 'face don't fit' liberal.


Before you begin to assert any point of view about who you perceive the BNP to be, you need to do a bit of field research.

Come to the UK and go and drink in a BNP pub and tell them that you think Blacks and whites should be allowed to live in peace.

They'd love you - the laughter would be dark and evil as they made sport out of spilling your blood.

I am not afraid of them, but I know plenty of people who are - and it isn't because they are different, it is because thay have had their heads kicked around like footballs for looking different and because people like them have had knives forced between their ribs for the same reason.


Blither on aboout your theoretival fanasy worls if you like, but we in the UK are coming to terms with the shock that there are two Nazis representing us in the European Parliament.


I had thought Azizi a bit harsh when she commented that you were free to philosophize from 5,000 miles away in the comfort of your white skin, but I am only a whisker away from echoing her comments.