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Thread #121446   Message #2655101
Posted By: Slag
12-Jun-09 - 03:53 PM
Thread Name: BS: Science and Religion
Subject: RE: BS: Science and Religion
Now we're on to E.T.s! Wow! Yes, Dorothy, there IS pontification below the line here at the 'cat. that's what we DO! (I'm tempted to say "that is ALL we do", but, well, that just isn't factual and, besides, I think that line may be copyrighted!) And Yes LH, we get to show off our verbal skills, intellect, sophistry and the God given ability to BS thru just about any subject! Don't ya just love it?


Did the Creator God have Theomorphic ideas concerning man? That is asserted in Genesis. It's Man without the familiar presence of God who came up with the anthropomorphic argument concerning the nature of God. That God created Man for a personal relationship with Himself is consistent with the hermeneutic integrity of the Bible.

I would contend that scientists ARE of a faith, albeit a knowledge-based faith, in the method. The ultimate tautology is that reason is reasonable. The sensual world and whatever extensions of those senses we can manage are the exclusive realm of scientific thought. It cannot acknowledge anything beyond our ability to sense and extrapolate. That is the limit of scientific endeavor. The common man may be ignorant (for whatever reason) about the scientific process but he sees and experiences the successes of science and therefore he DOES have some basis for his belief. Even so, he may have an over-inflated belief on the ability of science to do all he expects it to do.

I don't quite remember the exact limit but such a limit does exist and it is depressingly small in terms of the immensity of the universe in regards to the most powerful electromagnetic signal mankind could reasonably be expected to generate. At the distance of about 20 light years any radio signals thus far generated by humankind will have been absorbed or have become meaningless radiation. I think it is at about 40 lys that our most powerful beam imaginable will have evaporated.

Isaac Asimov proposed that our search for a truly advanced extraterrestrial civilization might include looking for a star that winks or dims off and on in a non cyclical manner. Such civilization, recognizing the limitations of artificially generated signals may attempt to orbit shielding material about a star in a pattern that would be mathematically identifiable. Who knows?