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Thread #121535   Message #2655112
Posted By: GUEST,lox
12-Jun-09 - 04:09 PM
Thread Name: Billy Bragg and incitement to violence
Subject: RE: Billy Bragg and incitement to violence
None here have advocated attacking BNP members in the street.

Read my posts in the folk against fascism thread ant the oher BNP threads to know what I advocate.


Your commenst about Billy Bragg beign patronizing...

The powere to make Scotland and Wales independant or not currently resides in The Parliament in westminster.

So ifd the scottish and welsh want independance then it is the Biritish parliamnet that must grant it.

ok?

Billy Bragg is English.

so, identifying himself as such he says - if the Scottish and welsh want independance, we (the english who make up the majority of the parliament in westminster) should let them have it.

In other words, it is not our right to deny them independance.

"Who were 'we' to decide what a people wanted?"

His comment doesn't indicate that he is 'deciding' what the scottish and welsh want, it indicates that he thinks their wishes should be respected.


Billy Bragg is a well informed political commentator.

If people agree with him they are free to say so.

just as they are free to say if they disagree with him.


The quote concerning 'duffing them up in the street' sounds like a punch line at the end of an otherwise very insightful post.

His point?

That if the BNP are given a platform to debate, then it allows them to be seen for the grubby hatemongers they are.

I agree with this view as i think it serves as a means of informing people who might otherwise be tempted to join them as, a result of uncontested one sided speech making at underground rallies.

I believe an exposed BNP is weaker than an underground BNP.

I believe that as long as they are exposed, shocks like the recent one in the euro elections are less likely to happen.

Some disagree and argue that such publicity is the oxygen they need to survive.

I believe that underground they grow unsupervised by the public at which point they are able to throw more surprises at us.

Billy Braggs point is all about democracy.