I'm sorry. The "It's pm;s" in my preceding posts is a result of poor editing on my part. I was going to write that "it's through pms that I have come to know Lizzie and quite a number of other posters to this thread. But I thought I was deleting that sentence because I recognized that whether or how I've developed relationships with Mudcatters in addition to exchanging comments with them on this public forum is really not pertinent to this discussion.