The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #121446   Message #2658690
Posted By: Amos
17-Jun-09 - 01:26 PM
Thread Name: BS: Science and Religion
Subject: RE: BS: Science and Religion
THe story you report supports the model that a soul is not something one has, while being a body+mind machine. Rather, the soul is who you are while having a body+mind machine.   My own opinion is that this model goes a great deal further in explaining a lot of fringe phenomena (such as the experience of the woman in your story). Her story, BTW, is fairly typical of the class. The ones that are really appealing are the "sneaker on the window ledge" variety, in which a patient had an OOB experience under surgery and reported floating up outside the window and seeing an old sneaker (trainer) on the ledge above the window in a place she could never have seen it physically. The existence of the sneaker as well as the fact that she had never been on the upper stories or the roof of the building were included in the story.

A story of this sort does not lend itself to hard-core scientism, in that it cannot be readily replicated, and the variables are too many and subtle to make for good control.

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