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Thread #121693   Message #2660146
Posted By: Crow Sister (off with the fairies)
19-Jun-09 - 09:18 AM
Thread Name: BS: Plastic Paddy slur
Subject: RE: BS: Plastic Paddy slur
Lox: "Ever watched a football match between Ireland and anyone else?
Ever looked at the crowd?
You will notice many leprechaun hats, false beards, guinness artefacts etc and the people sportng them won't be particularly bothered about whether you think they are plastic or not ."

No I don't think so, I'm not that into football. I'm sure it happens though. Because I do recognise the kind of standard and universal *football culture* you refer to, which I feel is *perhaps* something of a red herring. It's not high brow, it is lampooning itself, and the English and other footballing nations do similar things.

Yet I'd suggest it belongs within the sphere of football, and if native cultures are inclined to do such things themselves, then I guess that's their perogative.

Yet, I would not take that style of 'football culture' either outside of football or the indigenous culture which expresses itself in such a fashion. Or consider that because they might do that when they're at a football match, that *therefore* we can all take our lead from that circus atmosphere, and imitate the same degree of characturisation of anothers race or culture, that a football crowd might indulge in.

I do not feel that necessarily rightly justifies members of other cultures, doing the same, and especially in broader contexts.

I do agree though, I think it's a complicated matter. And not one easily pinned down.