PL, the thread is "dragging on" because it's a Mudcat BS thread. Some of them have gone to thousands of posts. Nature of the beast-- no electric fences at the Cat. "Answering" a help request here has never ended a thread, that I've noticed.... perhaps it's because the common experience from Music threads has been that a new (fascinating) angle on an old answer can come in years after the question has first been asked, and we all kinda like it that way, I think.


Back to fences--

I use a low-voltage hotwire designed for dogs, to keep my escape-artist dog inside his rickety old fence. We rent here and new, expensive fencing is not a simple "run to the store" kind of prospect.... but the dogs only needed to touch it once to be true believers, and were not hurt at all-- not even a yelp. It's also too high for kids to touch, not that we have kids roaming the fast country highway steps from our dog yard. :~)

~Susan