funny, this computer stuff came sort of easy for me..(NOT programming..my wife does that!)..just pushing buttons and figgering out what they do and 'seeing' models in my mind and translating it into 'how to'...and I started from a DEAD stand-still in Oct.96...it was VERY mysterious then, but now I do the downloading and installing and 'kicking the tires'....and I am 61....(durn it, Kendall, if I could sit down there with you for an hour, we'd have you doing the equivlent of barred Fs on that damn machine!)