The fact that there is a historic precipice looming ahead doesn't mean we should go lurching madly toward it, posting willy-nilly in an attempt to capture a number. We should endeavor to maintain the high standards of BS for which this thread is rightly known. To do otherwise just wouldn't be the MOAB way. It would be chickenshit, and this is The Mother of All Bullshit Threads , not The Mother of All Chickenshit Threads!