Thanks Janie.

These Whitefly ,Thrips Aphids, what ever they are just go for the lupin. I must look up the three names above on the internet to find out exactly what I have got then maybe I can deal with them effectively.

I live in Southean England 10 miles from London where the Climite is mild and sunny but winters can be cold. (Nothing in comparission to what you folk get across the pond.in REGARDS TO WINTER.)

I have no privets myself but the neighbourhood is covered in them.

If I cut the plants down at soli level they will grow again and it will be easy to tackle the blighters. I wont burn the cutting I will bin them .
Thanks Pierre.