Bobert,

"A classier way for bb to have started the thread would have been to just open it up for discussion and then slam a Dem..."

Well, as long as I am dedicated to following the lead established by Amos, I guess I have to settle for the less classy way. Otherwise, how can I be a true disciple and follow in his footsteps???


Kendall-

"Is anyone naive enough to believe that these people run for office for the good of the country?"

Some here have stated so. I agree with you.




"The only real choice we have is, which gang of thieves will do the least damage?"

And this is the point I would debate- IMHO, the pasrty that gets us into a nuclear war, whether intended or not, is the one that causes the most damage.





"BB yes. Just as everything that happens aboard a ship is the responsibility of the Captain, the president is responsible for everything that happens on his watch.Either he knows what is going on, or he doesn't. If he does he should deal with it. If he doesn't, he should."

I agree with you, but I don't believe that many here will do so- They have shown they cannot apply the samne standards to Obama that they applied to Bush. IF applied equally to BOTH parties, I agree with you on this.



Amos,

NEWSFLASH: Obama has feet of clay.


But now the Democrats have a lock in the Senate, so what happens is ONLY their responsibility.


"The Cheney<==>Halliburton connection involved funneling billions of dollars, and I am pretty sure Cheney made a pretty penny from his relationship with Halliburton to the detriment of the DoD's net efficiency. The Cheney<==>Halliburton connection involved funneling billions of dollars, and I am pretty sure Cheney made a pretty penny from his relationship with Halliburton to the detriment of the DoD's net efficiency. Arguably, lives were lost asd a result."

You mean the contracts that Halburton operated under, which were given by the CLINTON administration? I believe that there was as much in place with Cheney to remove control of Halburton as had been done in previous and subsequent cases- Care to show otherwise??

" Arguably, lives were lost asd a result.

Then blame the Clintons who gave Halburton that contract.



Art,

"Sen. Daniel K. Inouye's staff contacted federal regulators last fall to ask about the bailout application of an ailing Hawaii bank that he had helped to establish and where he has invested the bulk of his personal wealth.

The bank, Central Pacific Financial, was an unlikely candidate for a program designed by the Treasury Department to bolster healthy banks. The firm's losses were depleting its capital reserves. Its primary regulator, the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp., already had decided that it didn't meet the criteria for receiving a favorable recommendation and had forwarded the application to a council that reviewed marginal cases, according to agency documents.

Two weeks after the inquiry from Inouye's office, Central Pacific announced that the Treasury would inject $135 million.

Many lawmakers have worked to help home-state banks get federal money since the Treasury announced in October that it would invest up to $250 billion in healthy financial firms. But the Inouye inquiry stands apart because of the senator's ties to Central Pacific. While at least 33 senators own shares in banks that got federal aid, a review of financial disclosures and records obtained from regulatory agencies shows no other instance of the office of a senator intervening on behalf of a bank in which he owned shares.

Inouye (D-Hawaii) declined a request for an interview but acknowledged in a statement that an aide had called the FDIC to ask about Central Pacific's application. Inouye said he was not attempting to influence the outcome. The statement did not address Inouye's personal role in the inquiry, including whether he directed the aide to make the call or knew at the time that it had been made. "

As Kendall said, the person in charge is responsible- right?

Perhaps the staffer thought he was being helpful- but then, all those Bush appointees that Amos screamed about were just being helpful.

I am asking for the SAME standards that were used on Bush supporters to be applied to Democrats- is that really too much to ask?

If Bush is to be held responsible for the actions of those below him, so should Obama and Inouye. Yet there seems a great resistance here to even LOOKING at the situation- hardly what was applied to Bush administration ethical slips.