I'm the lady who forgot to add the solid shortening(fat) to pie dough-----it obviously wasn't "right" when it was "done", so I stood and thought about it, and DAH!! the light came on--"No Shortening!!" So.......I did it again and left the shortening out AGAIN. Gave up at that point and did a cake instead. It was not the day to bake pies, I guess.